Anyone know where to buy some good fire meteors?

topic posted Sun, April 8, 2007 - 2:27 PM by  Iona
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  • HAHAHA wow, so I guess it didnt post the rest of my message. I had a really long post set... but methinks something went terribly wrong. Here is some of the rest of the stuff I had intended to say...

    Ideally I would like to buy a good set, but Ive only found some really expensive ones from home of poi... and Im not so down with expensive...

    Ive also been looking at making some, and I was also going to ask what you guys have been using for the middle hand grip. I was looking at everything from a strong woven leather rope with a grommet in each end for attatchment, to natural fiber rope with something metal and crimped to it(?) to attach it to the chains... (how DO you attatch natural fiber rope to fire chains safely??)

    Ive been using ball chain for my chains, but hate it as it screws up my wraps, so Im looking for something smoother. I think Im gonna go to the hardware store and play for a while.

    Also, heavier or lighter, which do you prefer?

    Yeah... that was basically it... at least thats all I can remember ;) (for now anyways)
    • Weight is an issue of personal prefrence and ratio of end weight to total weight. I like mine to be somewhat medium in weight, and heavy at the ends. Jared's one with the heavy ends is really great.

      Meteors are going to be expensive. Just swallow that fact. There is crap like this www.firetoys.co.uk/juggling...poi_.html But that will just tear up your hands.

      Rope attached to chain isn't nerely the problem you imagine. I was very paranoid about this for a longtime with my rope dart, but linked metal conducts heat very poorly, and it isn't going to burn/melt your rope unless flame is directly on the rope for a while, or you do something silly like get fuel on the rope. Its something to think about, but not really worry about. Along this same line, you only need about 4" of chain to keep the rope from being toasty, which means you SHOULD use 6-8". A foot is a good length, but anything moreis just adding weight and limiting your grip area.

      I've used ball chain meteors, and I don't really like them that much, you need some rope grip are in the center, some people use lariat rope, and that seems to work quite well. Kevlar rope is terrible for something your hands are going to be on. It's abrasive to you, and they dont' last long at all, so you'll need something over the kevlar portion ifyou do it that way.
    • What's worked best for me was securing the end with twine or glue for natural fibers (heat for synthetic), and piercing above that with a quicklink. Only works with braided ropes, not twisted, though.
      • A twisted rope is generally a bad idea for a meteor anyway. :)
        • I coughed up the money for the ones from HoP. They're exceptionally nicely constructed.

          One big issue: Those metal cuffs they use to transition between rope and chain aren't too great. They're a sturdy design, but that creates this 6 inch dead zone on either side of the meteor that you cant really hold or use. That meant that the M size meteor I ordered from them actually turned out too short, I couldn't even do a straightforward beat because I was wide for the meteor, and i'm no big guy. As a warning to anyone wanting these ones: Unless you're a twig, they're too short.

          After changing the rope in the middle that wasnt an issue, and they're quite good, but I cant really say they're the *best*, with those cuffs on there.
          • yeah, I thought the cuffs looked like they would get snagged on either each other or me.
            • I've not had any problems with them snagging, just the forementioned awkwardness. Going to see about maybe taking some of the cuff off with a pipe cutter, its not all needed.

              I'd definetly have just made my own if given a second chance. These are well made, but its almost like they were made by someone whos never really spun meteor before themseves.
              • I guess different people make their meteor differently. I use climbing rope for mine, and have settled on fairly thin stuff, attached to a length of chain then the monkeyfist. I used to not be a fan of monkey fists either as heads, but the balance makes a huge difference. I'm quite attached to my current setup. I'd say experiment around with what works for you. With meteor however it doesn't have to be an expensive investment, for practice or for a fire setup, unless perhaps you're going for traditional chinese bowl meteors, which might run a bit more, but could be built at home, much like all fire tools. One tip for the rope however, is to find some stiff rope, it makes your more traditional meteor, not poi moves easier. Tip from one of the Karamazof brothers ;)
    • look, home of poi is ridiculously overpriced. actually, their markup must be about 50%.

      Here's what you do...make one. Get some 1" think nylon rope and experiment with tying monkey-fist knots. Vary it to your liking (length...whatever) and then buy some 1" think kevlar WIRE REINFORCED rope. i got 40ft to make mine from www.trickconcepts.com and it was about $60. and a bit cheaper than dube. in addition, dube did not have WIRE REINFORCED. this is important, as you will have just have spent 60 damn dollars on rope and you won't want to replace it any time soon.

      I'll post about my meteor someday, ah, the day i finally get those pictures back....

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