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Any solid sources, or am I stuck learning on my own?
Is there a name other than meteor hammer I should be searching under?
Is there a name other than meteor hammer I should be searching under?
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Re: Instruction
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 5:56 PMYou're gonna be hard pressed to find info on the net, specially using "meteor hammer" as your term. Meteor hammer is more likely to land you information on rope dart than the thing we think of as meteor. That's definitely a problem trying to find meteor info, a lack of a unique name. Your best bet is to try and track down vids and reverse engineer what you're seeing. For the most part you'll just be doing staff and poi tricks with them until you get comfortable enough to start trying contact style of movements.
There's a book out there somewhere that gives general information (so far as I know), but I don't know the name of it and I've never seen it, only heard that it's a decent starting source. Useless, I know, but I figured I'd let you know it exists.
Anyway, for some general starting vid references, I offer you my meteor playlist:
www.youtube.com/view_play_list
Peace,
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Re: Instruction
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 6:54 PMI think the book you are referring to is The Meteor Book, by Rhys Thomas. and it can be found at www.seriousjuggling.com
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Re: Instruction
Sat, November 3, 2007 - 4:25 PMNope, not The Meteor Book. (really. I edited and publish it.)*
If you are looking for a single-ball meteor (fire or otherwise), with the other end simply a length of rope, you are out of luck. There are two areas that are related.
First are the techniques in doing leg, arm, neck, and torso wraps with sock-poi. Samie-same, but with a longer handle and proportionately slower swing. This tends to look like dance with props, or Tai Chi, rather than the usual fire-spinning. (Okay, there is one page on wraps in The Meteor Book, but any spinner gathering will teach you more.)
Then there is the whole martial arts scene, where it's expensive and requires that you adopt the required insular loyalty, forsake all other teachers, and spend several years mastering prerequisites that you have no particular interst in. However, if you can find the head teacher at a dojo and speak to him _outside_ class, most will teach you anything you want if you're willing to pay for it and take lessons in private.
Go with the sock-poi. (You much bettah off.)
Two people who have worked with this a little are David Fireninja and Adam Adler. Adam is in his first year of medical residency and doesn't have time to eat, let alone play. David is disgusted with fire-fetish dancers who learn his routines and leave to get better pay in strip clubs; and besides, running his art gallery is much more fun. Both are findable in the Portland area.
And then there's getting DVDs of some of the Jackie Chan movies where he uses similar materials, and watching them over and over, reeeeaal slow. Try YouTube with combinations varieous key words: fire ball dance rope meteor hammer jackie-chan, etc.
* Also, Serious Juggling no longer carries The Meteor Book or the CJ 1&2 DVDs, regardless of what's on their web site, because I no longer sell to them and haven't for three years. Try Neon Husky, Dube, Renegade, Firetoys, or Juggleart.
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Re: Instruction
Sat, November 3, 2007 - 6:44 PMJust to be clear, I am not looking for rope dart. I am not looking for 12' of rope with a single weight.
I am looking for roughly staff length rope (5-6') with weight on both ends, as seen here:
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Instruction
Sun, November 11, 2007 - 9:01 PMJeez! And Wow! And other expletives that come to mind.
Very nice work. And thanks for the Chinese clip, too. I'll forward them to Rhys.
You are pretty much on your own here. Keep in mind that as more people get involved in meteor and progress to this level, more people will be passing this level and going on to more mind boggling things. So asking for help in this kind of forum is going to get weird reactions from all levels of skill and perception of this art. Sorry if mine weren't up to spec.
You need to put out your best work here and on youtube, as you have, and make yourself accessible, as you have. Among your responses you'll get many more people asking for lessons than you will people with useful advances on your work. Use both responses.
Keep in touch with those at your own level of skill, and above.
Keep in touch with those who are at a sufficiently advanced level to learn from you. (Those too new will not be able to benefit from your work.) These can be students in classes you teach, if your have that talent. This can be a point of income or not, as you wish. Some of the better ones will quickly surpass their current level of skill, and even surpass your own level of skill. You'll find it very useful to keep in touch with these people too (no matter how much their ability to absorb stuff instantly may tend to annoy you.)
If this is your life, you must keep current with what is happening.
The more you invest in the community of meteor swingers, the more you will get back from it.
Sorry about the preaching, but this seemed to be an appropriate point for it -- and of course I'm speaking through you to all the others in similar positions out there, as well as to you.
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