Anyone else playing with this? There's alot of peeps up here in Seattle doing horizontal contact(weaving around the body, thru the legs, etc), I play around more with vertical contact as well, seems to be a slightly larger family of moves than horizontal.
btw, hello, new to the tribe ere :)
btw, hello, new to the tribe ere :)
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Re: Contact meteor?
Wed, July 6, 2005 - 8:10 AMwelcome:)
I play around with some horizontal stuff, specifically wraps around my torso and neck and pass offs to someone else, kinda like a hula hoop with one side open. On the weekend we did some stuff with two meteors passing off at the same time on opposite sides. I'd like to try some stuff where you stop touching the meteor with your hands and play with it around your body.
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Wed, July 6, 2005 - 12:47 PMI guess a lot of what I do would be considered contact. That's really cool Lareina, the partner play. I don't know anyone on Maui that spins meteor, so I can't try that yet. Looking forward to seeing it on the playa. A kinda fun overhead horizontal move is to spin around a single hand, allowing the rope to slowly move along towards one end, then when you're nearing the end, grab the rope with that hand so it won't move, and bring your forearm down a bit allowing the rope to wrap around your elbow and back to your hand, when it gets to your hand release your grip and grab the newly presented portion of rope. Repeat, or whatever, depending on rope length. -
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Wed, July 6, 2005 - 12:48 PMOh yeah, and Musashi, I'll be in Seattle in August, and would love to get together with you and others for some spin sessions if you're gonna be around. Let me know. ^_^ -
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Wed, July 6, 2005 - 3:07 PM'I'll be in Seattle in August'
Do you know which part of august? I'll be in the area early in august but mid to late august I'll be out of town most of the time. Any other time I'll be off work, always down to spin ;) -
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Wed, July 6, 2005 - 11:44 PMI'm flying from Maui to Seattle some time in the first week of August. It's an Airhitch ticket (like stand-by), so I don't know exactly when. I'll be in Seattle until the 13th, then I'll be back in Seattle again from the 21st thru the 27th or so. I'll be driving to Bman from there. If you know anyone who's selling a small truck with canopy, let me know...
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Re: Contact meteor?
Wed, July 6, 2005 - 1:02 PM'I'd like to try some stuff where you stop touching the meteor with your hands and play with it around your body. '
totally, is really tough tho horizontally still for me. So far I can only let go if I'm transferring from armpit to neck. I'm sure something along the lines of a horizontal SNES is possible, you might have to do a half static spin to keep momentum, I dunno.
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Sat, July 9, 2005 - 1:52 PMthe closest I have come to not using my hands is a fishtale on my wrist.
Its basically the 3 beat meteor weave with your wrist instead of your hands. The more your meteor doesnt slip the easier this is. its all about rope placement.
Practicing it has prooved far more useful in error correction then the actual move its self. I manage to save my self from certain meteor launching with a simple wrist hook and fishtake back to hand.
Its aqtually quite amazing what one can do when trying desperatly not to launch his balls of fire at inocent onlookers =]
:: HAHA I almost killed you! :: ::clap clap clap::
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Thu, July 7, 2005 - 10:30 PMYeah, just got some things to work actually. One old chinese trick that's not too hard once you brain it is to drive a vertical plan rotor (windmill/big circle) with just one forearm in a tiny circle of controlled rope burn. Another fun move is to do above the head helicopter rotors using only forearms or elbows to drive it. This even segues into a handless behind the back transfer, but it's really really hard. Oh, how about taking a butterfly and using something else at the contact point other than a hand (like the crook of an elbow)? That's not very hard but is highly dancable in a clown kind of way.
I know it doesn't quite count, but letting go long enough for both ends to wrap and unwrap around a body part group is always an impressive kind of move. Don't want to clog this up with discussing those though.
Nice to "meet" you musashi.
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Wed, August 17, 2005 - 1:45 PMI think I finally understand now what you mean when you said handless btb transfer, I just learned it w staff and currently working on transferring all those elbow traps to meteor. Recently learned a steve/matrix style move where(from horizontal) the meteor spirals down your arm, and you can keep driving it around your arm close to your armpit before allowing it to travel to the other side of your body or just continue spiralling down your body. Good move for smacking yourself repeatedly in the face as you have to keep the meteor moving pretty fast to sustain momentum ;) Not online much at all these days, but hopefully will see all of yous on the playa :) -
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Fri, December 16, 2005 - 8:26 PMI've been doing forward and reverse meteor fishtails for a while buts that's pretty easy contact stuff. Just learnt 'the steve' I think that's what the fire staff guys call it. eg Horizontal spinning - slide down left arm>spin around neck> then slide up the right arm. -
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Sat, December 17, 2005 - 6:15 AMSo there is a whole world of meteor spinning out there once you learn to do a neck wrap into a double elbow thru wrap(vertically, jared, you know what I'm talking about..decent name?). You can actually trap both ends and spin the short chain style as the rope of the meteor is wrapped across your back. Make sense? And there are a ton of releases/unwraps from this positions. Now imagine that move forwards, backwards, and that so far is my basis for vertical contact meteor. Your entrance is always the same, a single neck wrap where the leading end of the meteor comes across the neck and underneath the same arm that is holding the meteor(elbow thru wrap 1), then allowing the other end to do an elbow thru wrap on the opposite arm(elbow thru wrap 2). Just a fancy way of trapping the rope btb if you wish to hold it there.
Anyone workin w a no hands vertical neck wrap? All about the balance, but I still can't get more than one revolution.
And then there's all of the horizontal btl leg stuff while you're lying on your back, still trying to incorporate a roll in there, so like a sideways roll that you transition from a waist level pinwheel to a btb pinwheel, and the back. -
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Sat, December 17, 2005 - 4:26 PMI've infrequently had a go at verticle neck wraps. Just left side clockwise>wrap following end>let go and spin to the right>gather the meteor on the right side.
Very hit and miss at the moment. However i'm sure there's technique to be learnt to make it more reliable.
It should be very possible. Hey if you can do figure 8's and fishtails with hands, then they must be able to be down with arms or elbows, then they must be able to be done with a neck or a leg. Hmm if only I could put this theory into practice. ;-)
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Mon, August 21, 2006 - 10:15 PMi´m doing the contact-meteor-matrix... a friend is doing all the contact-moves you can do with staff.. so f.e. the jesus.... dave,.... transfers....
everything is possible... :-)
at the moment i´m working on spirals
check this out: www.fenfire.at
go to ubereurope and there you find vid.... markus is playing some contact-moves...
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Tue, August 22, 2006 - 9:05 AMthe jesus still seems like a bit of a mind fuck to pull off, but the matrix turned out to be _slightly_ easier than I thought, in some ways it's easier to keep momentum than with a staff once you get to the part where it goes underneath your armpit and across to the opposite side of the neck. By spirals do you mean in the contact sense where the meteors just spiral down your body steve-like? So a friend of mine told me he saw the varekai kids pull off a throw to that kind of spiral, and then I see something similiar on your vid, instead he throws it back up off the neck? wtf!?! ;) more please -
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Tue, August 22, 2006 - 11:16 AMnow I've got nothing complex like steves or thejesus, but in playing with halo rolls and horizontal neck wraps, I have found that heavy meteors are so much eaiser. Jared has a meteor that has about a pound of lead in it, and I can come close to fishtailing it, because it is just so stiff when spinning.
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Tue, August 22, 2006 - 6:17 PMThere has to be some sort of golden ratio of weight on the ends vs the weight and thickness of the rope, very similiar to contact staff construction, heavy ends and a light middle make for better contact.
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Tue, August 22, 2006 - 7:04 PMwow. I guess I should learn me some contact staff =]
gunna miss you this year musashii -
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Tue, August 22, 2006 - 7:06 PMgoing to miss you and Sam :( I should be down there sometime in the fall tho
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