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To me, tangles are one of the most interesting areas to explore with double meteor. Since you have 4 ends (I'll use the term heads) to tangle as compared to 2 with poi there is much more room for variation. So far I've found three basic relationships in regards to tangling double meteors.
The first relationship involves tangling the 2 left hand heads and 2 right hand heads at the same time. This is actually the simplest way to tangle a double meteor. It is relatively easy to do a hyperloop or airwrap like this since you do the exact same motions as you would with poi. Oh and yes these do untangle with ease and look really neat sicne all the heads shrink onto each other then expand as you end the tangle.
The second relationship is tangling only one head on the left and one head on the right. This is much more difficult then the above tangles since it requires two of the heads to keep spinning while the other two tangle. The easiest way (IMO) to try this out is to do a bf with one hand and then a weave in wall plane with the other. When the weave comes to the front wall plane get one of the ends to tangle with the downswing of one of the heads in the bf and you can get an airwrap to happen while the other heads keep spinning. I've gotten this to work with two weaves while doing a reel but it's much harder to control. The way I am most interested in tangling a double meteor is by tangling only two heads out of a weave so in theory you could do an infinite tangle with two heads while the other 2 are spinning outside your hand which would look wicked.
The third relationship which I find to be hardest is tangling two heads to only one of the other heads. This just feels awkward but when it works it sometimes looks really cool because the 2 heads tangling on the one become same time for a moment. I have only gotten this to work just a couple of times well so I don't have much to say about this relationship other then that it is possible.
Where to go from here? Well if you can master the second relationship in all of it;s variations you could eventually do some really awesomely complex patterns. For example:
Do a weave and hyperloop the thumb led head on the right hand with the pinky led on the left. After that untangles tangle the pinky led on the right with the thumb led on the left and hyperloop back across to the other side.
Another one would be tangling two heads in an airwrap after they untangle tangle the other two heads in a an airwrap and keep alternating which heads tangle i.e. likeboth thumb leds airwrap then both pinky then both thumbs.
I hope this was at least interesting. For me it's good to get these thoughts out of my head. Do any of you out there have any itneresting move ideas or thoughts on any of this. Theoretical musings are encouraged!
-Chris
The first relationship involves tangling the 2 left hand heads and 2 right hand heads at the same time. This is actually the simplest way to tangle a double meteor. It is relatively easy to do a hyperloop or airwrap like this since you do the exact same motions as you would with poi. Oh and yes these do untangle with ease and look really neat sicne all the heads shrink onto each other then expand as you end the tangle.
The second relationship is tangling only one head on the left and one head on the right. This is much more difficult then the above tangles since it requires two of the heads to keep spinning while the other two tangle. The easiest way (IMO) to try this out is to do a bf with one hand and then a weave in wall plane with the other. When the weave comes to the front wall plane get one of the ends to tangle with the downswing of one of the heads in the bf and you can get an airwrap to happen while the other heads keep spinning. I've gotten this to work with two weaves while doing a reel but it's much harder to control. The way I am most interested in tangling a double meteor is by tangling only two heads out of a weave so in theory you could do an infinite tangle with two heads while the other 2 are spinning outside your hand which would look wicked.
The third relationship which I find to be hardest is tangling two heads to only one of the other heads. This just feels awkward but when it works it sometimes looks really cool because the 2 heads tangling on the one become same time for a moment. I have only gotten this to work just a couple of times well so I don't have much to say about this relationship other then that it is possible.
Where to go from here? Well if you can master the second relationship in all of it;s variations you could eventually do some really awesomely complex patterns. For example:
Do a weave and hyperloop the thumb led head on the right hand with the pinky led on the left. After that untangles tangle the pinky led on the right with the thumb led on the left and hyperloop back across to the other side.
Another one would be tangling two heads in an airwrap after they untangle tangle the other two heads in a an airwrap and keep alternating which heads tangle i.e. likeboth thumb leds airwrap then both pinky then both thumbs.
I hope this was at least interesting. For me it's good to get these thoughts out of my head. Do any of you out there have any itneresting move ideas or thoughts on any of this. Theoretical musings are encouraged!
-Chris
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Re: [Double meteor] Tangles
Wed, August 6, 2008 - 8:50 PMWell, Im back in town and finally got a chance to sit down and peruse this post. I love the final idea of alternating ends tangling incessantly.
now, Im not a double meteor person (yet), but I was playing around with trying airwraps with a single meteor. A neat observation I had was that rather than trying to untangle by having the heads rotate between the tangle nexus and the body of the meteor, I could rotate my hands down and invert, causing the nexus to be between the body of the rope and my own self. Then there was a lot more space to untangle the wrap and I could just continue rotating my wrists in a full circle to prevent the meteor getting caught on my hands.
