throwing the meteor

topic posted Sat, May 14, 2005 - 1:50 PM by  Zachary
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I went to see the Shanghai Circus the other day, and there were six chinese women spinning the meteor (not on fire), and they threw them in the air! They could throw them straight up, and catch it themselves, or throw them to each other. Also, they could go down on the ground, lying on their back, and kick it way up into the air. I was impressed. I've been experimenting and found that if you spin it relatively fast, and then just sort of push upwards, that it will fly off your hand and up into the air. If you push in the middle it goes staright up, and if you push from off center, then it flies away from you in an arc. Catching it is tough (for me...). Any of you have experience with this? Any suggestions?
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  • Re: throwing the meteor

    Sun, May 15, 2005 - 1:37 PM
    ive actually been practicing many different meteor throws and hand positioning for said throws, what ive found for the most part with the weave toss that hand positioning affects how high it goes and how many rotations the meteor makes, the closer to the center the more rotations and the lower the apex of the throw, whereas if holding it off center you can gain extreme hiegth. As for releasing it, this can be a difficult concept to begin with but in all actuallity its rather simple and follows the same principle as spinning the meteor splayed out, by controling the small(leading) half of the meteor the rest just follows along. So with that in mind when you are preparing to throw you want to make sure that your meteor is moving in the direction you want so that at the end of its path the forward section banks upward, its in this section of the spin that your going to be throwing, so as the head comes around and begins to climb you basically snap the wrist upwards and throw up the smaller (forward) half straight up, the long half will follow along and depending on how much momentum the meteor has built up it should whip up and around continuing the weave up in the air, this throw can also be done from the rotor.
    As for the second throw its pretty straightforward, one handed butterfly held in the center, as the two halves make their bottom pass push up harder and open your hand(palm up) the meteor should literally just jump out of your hand, this one is slightly harder to catch because of the lack of movement on the Y plane to keep in balanced and from moving far off to either side during the rise and fall, instead what is produced usually is a relatively straight climb, and a subtly curved descent usually back, so taking a step and a half or two back is a good idea.
    Third, and most difficult of all would be the horizontal rotor(above the head) toss, beginning from the above the head meteor you create a slight bobbing in the meteor, i do this just by bending my knees down just enough before pushing myself back up to create this bobbing motion, let it bob once and then as it bobs downwards for the second time and begins to move back up, open you hand and push up hard, it should just sail into the air and come back down right ontop of you.
    • Re: throwing the meteor

      Sun, May 15, 2005 - 4:46 PM
      nice, I haven't done throws yet, I'm working with a ball chain meteor right now and I'm not really sure if they are possible but I'm on my way to getting a rope one. thanks for the instruction.
      • Re: throwing the meteor

        Sun, May 15, 2005 - 6:15 PM
        the ball chain meteors are nice for balance and splayability, this makes for a nice solid straight meteor for spinning, however the throws can be more tricky and can hurt the hands a bit more than a rope when coming down from a high throw, rope meteors on the other hand makes for a softer more comfortable grip and wrist wrap, and are easier for throws, however they exhibit the tendancy to fall out of the splayed state rather easily if you dont keep the momentum going
        • Re: throwing the meteor

          Thu, May 19, 2005 - 12:24 PM
          I think the ball chain meteors tend to splay out differently due to the weight ratio difference in "chain & cathedral wicks" vs "rope & monkeyfist wicks".

          The ball chain meteors I have used have most of their weight in the ends which can help you splay however I have noticed that while its easier to splay out its also a lot easier to loose that splay.

          My theory is that the heavier rope and distributed weight balance takes more effort to splay out and in turn stores more kinetic energy so it is able to splay with more force and put up a stronger fight against bending.

          A lot of this ease of splay may also have a lot to do with the bend resistance of the connecting section of the meteor. Ball chain has almost zero resistance to bending, in fact I think it's designed to =] vs rope which will resist bending out of its splay a lot more.

          I think this is why throws are a lot harder with ball chain. I have never tried to throw a ball chain meteor and I have only tried to throw my rope meteor about 15 or 20 times but I would imagine that as soon as you apply extra directional force upon the meteor to push it up the splaying force needs to resist this bend to stay splayed out and the point at which it looses all power is far less in ball chain then in rope.


          What do you think?
          • Re: throwing the meteor

            Fri, May 27, 2005 - 10:03 PM
            I've never spun a ball chain meteor. It seems like it might be pinchy with the neck wraps? I'll make one this week, and throw it, and let you know what happens...
    • Re: throwing the meteor

      Tue, June 14, 2005 - 3:03 PM
      New to the tribe. I agree with Fluid about these different types of throws being fundamental. However, it seems me that the throw from the above the head rotor is in fact the easiest (and the safest when on fire). The bobbing motion is crutial and if you can maintain this bobbing of the meteor while driving it (if your driving method uses both hands evenly) then you can maintain the bobbing and build it up. When on fire, throwing the meteor is easier if you throw it high so you can get enough time to see the spinning balls of light clearly and anticipate revolutions. I have alot of trouble doing single revolutions above the head throws when on fire, but using practice ones it's a breeze.
      As for the butterfly throw, it helps a little bit to release the meteor as the balls are about to pass at the top of the circle. If you pull downwards ass you release, they speed up and you see them boucne back and forth in the air in a signature aerial pattern. Hope to keep chatting with yall (just now noticed this was a SF tribe)
      • Re: throwing the meteor

        Thu, June 16, 2005 - 12:58 PM
        the release point on the butteryfly throw makes a lot of sense, I'll have to give that a shot, that might be my problem.

        thanks! we hope to keep talking to you too =P

        pppssstt make a meteor video heheheh

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