http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#de03847f-6b62-4a26-a8b5-a6b763cee523 >Right now Im curious about why Ive seen some people mention that switching to a thin center rope is more advantageous than thicker ones. I've been playing with thick ropes myself. Haven't tried the thin rope yet. But it makes sense to me that the thinner rope can achieve that tension needed more easily because there is simply less material to stretch. And of course it would require less weight to achieve that tension. I am currently using rope with a 3/4 inch diameter, and it has pretty heavy heads on it (I think?). It has to be spinning really fast to get good tension out of it, though i think the rope itself is more stretchy then it should be. It is also longer then it needs to be, which makes that tension harder to get as well. I had one that was slightly shorter, with heavier heads, which achieved tension really easily. So everything is going to come down to personal style/preference, a well as materials... But its not the rope diameter that matters, its the head weight vs rope diameter/length. Or, essentially, head weight vs amount-of-material-between-them. But this is just (my) theory, and I'm new :) Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:43:03 GMT http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#de03847f-6b62-4a26-a8b5-a6b763cee523 Træ 2008-07-04T04:43:03Z http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#1874bea5-7c8f-465d-98af-cd6830221b12 Link (enjoy, and let me know if I'm missing any youtube meteor vids): http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2F0598D6F3042ACA as far as the thinner rope, I think it largely comes from some of Andy Haus' moves. He does a single hand spiral wrap and he does a chain wrap to increase beats before a side switch. Those are the main things I'm familiar with and the reason I've been told that some folks have switched to a thinner rope (I think this is also mentioned in Nick Woolsey's vid, which was also Haus inspired). However, the moves can be done with thicker diameters (just not as easily fluid). Peace, - Sui Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:57:12 GMT http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#1874bea5-7c8f-465d-98af-cd6830221b12 suibom 2008-07-04T00:57:12Z http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#2b870ef4-e089-44ce-aba0-0e862e15809a based on what I know of staff spinning and poi, it would make sense that having a heavier head would make the spin slower. Right now Im curious about why Ive seen some people mention that switching to a thin center rope is more advantageous than thicker ones. btw, Suibom, could you link the playlist you have for meteor? Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:51:33 GMT http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#2b870ef4-e089-44ce-aba0-0e862e15809a squid 2008-07-03T22:51:33Z http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#47ea2a0a-7aa8-4d24-a28d-05298b5e93b4 Thanks Sui. I'm glad to know that it's relatively unexplored. That way I have a good reason why I can't find info. Also, how DO you get the meteor to cross your body without tangling the tail? Also, how does head weight affect spin speed? I haven't done the math, but I was thinking a heavier head would mean slower spinning would still allow for meteor's pseudo rigidity. Anyone know if I have that backward? Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:41:08 GMT http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#47ea2a0a-7aa8-4d24-a28d-05298b5e93b4 eric 2008-07-03T00:41:08Z http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#91213cc7-f08f-460b-ae41-9c90a5b6c047 Don't think in terms of beats.. they do not translate to meteor well. Beats are a poi terminology that refers to how many times the poi head has crossed a certain point, usually the bottom of it's spin. Weaves are also a poi originating term that refers to the tool (poi or meteor) in each hand crossing from one side of the body to the other in alternation: http://www.homeofpoi.com/lessons_all/teach/Library-POI-Beginners-Weaves-Forward-Weave-3-beats-3_14_22 What Chris (Rovo) is talking about is each meteor crossing the body from one side to the other with each hand leading the cross consecutively. It's a basic move in poi, but with meteor you need to figure out how to cross over without tangling the tail end of the meteor. Meteor is still largely unexplored and I don't think you will find much in the way of names. Up until recently, the main moves were your basic figure-8s, rotors/propellors (two and one handed), various butterfly moves, and tosses. Newer moves are generally being pulled from other props and are usually named the same as they are for those props (such as weaves). Folks have also done rope-dart moves with meteors. Chris is pushing meteors in a poi-ish way, and I've following the contact staff path with meteors. There is very little out there for meteor information and even less for some of the newer styles of meteor play. If you haven't seen my YouTube playlist, look me up and check my playlists. That's the most info on meteors I've been able to find. Sorry the post wasn't all that helpful. Peace, - Sui Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:02:15 GMT http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#91213cc7-f08f-460b-ae41-9c90a5b6c047 suibom 2008-07-02T20:02:15Z http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#7e7b2bd2-9a38-4fb8-8426-dc3ea0d56ddd Hey guys, I'm glad I found this resource for spinning meteor. The links to instructional Youtube videos are sweet. I'm curious if I could get some help with nomenclature. What exactly is a # beat-weave? Also, what are some other common move names, and can I get links to video's showing what they look like? Thanks to Eric for letting me in on a couple secrets of meteor construction. I can practice and not worry about my meteor becoming a couple of projectiles. the other Eric Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:34:00 GMT http://fire-meteor.tribe.net/thread/f1804ec0-6d7c-4e99-a009-a8c165e0f67a#7e7b2bd2-9a38-4fb8-8426-dc3ea0d56ddd eric 2008-07-02T17:34:00Z